MINUTES OF UTAH INTERAGENCY COORDINATING
COUNCIL (ICC)
FOR INFANTS AND TODDLERS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AND THEIR FAMILIES
Utah Department of Health, Division of Community and Family Health Services
44 North Medical Drive, Salt Lake City, Utah
November 15, 2002
Attendance (alphabetical): Brenda Broadbent, GleeAnn Clayton,
Pamela Colson, Barb Fiechtl, Chris Giacovelli, Judi Nielsen, Cathy Nelson,
Susan Ord, Gina Pola-Money, Marcela Rafide, Diana Sagers, Fan Tait, and
Shelley Wiseman.
Excused Absences: Caroline Bass, Trisha Beck, Kris Fawson, Colleen Fitzgerald,
Timothy Floyd, Sherry Hancock, Kristina Hindert, and Jill Oberndorfer.
Absentees: Jill Adams, Meredith Mannebach.
Visitors Present: Adrienne Akers, George Delavan, Terry Johnson, Sue Olsen,
Chris Thompson
Baby Watch Staff: Lori Brady, (equipment),Vanya Mabey, Kimberly Morris,
Ellen Parrish (minutes).
I. WELCOME/INTRODUCTIONS. The meeting commenced at 9:44 AM, conducted
by Barbara Fiechtl. Introductions were made.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES. A MOTION was made by GleeAnn Clayton and
seconded by Fan Tait to accept the Minutes of September 20, 2002 as written.
Motion carried unanimously.
III. LEADERSHIP TEAM REPORT
- Incoming members. Chris Giacovelli reported on new
ICC appointments. Johna Larson is replacing Maree Webb from the Governor's
Council for People with Disabilities. She is also a pediatric NICU nurse,
and mother of three adopted children with special needs. Patty Van Wagoner,
DCFS Deputy Director, will replace Dr. Paul Ebbert as an agency representative.
Lynette Rasmussen, DWS Child Care Director, is replacing Colleen Fitzgerald.
The paperwork for these new members should be ready for approval by
the Jan. 17th meeting.
- ICC Conference and OSEP seminar report. Chris reported
on the conference that she, Susan, and GleeAnn attended in Washington
DC. Chris and GleeAnn attended an intensive ICC seminar all day Sunday
and discovered there is a wide range of how ICCs are run. One state
had a paid staff of 25 for their ICC alone. Many states have a minimal
paid staff with the chair employed half or full time. By not having
a paid staff we don't get quite as much. Most ICCs are quite involved
in making decisions, advising and informing the lead agencies, and hearing
concerns of those providers on the front lines, serving the kids. When
Chris talked to our provider's group, they said they would like to offer
more feedback to the ICC on what's happening in their programs. Chris
suggested having information from a provider on the ICC agenda, maybe
not every time, but as needed.
IV. PARENT SUBCOMMITTEE REPORT
- Parent Tri-chair. GleeAnn Clayton explained that at
the November 13 meeting it was proposed that the parent subcommittee
create a tri-chair much like the regular ICC has, to help with sharing
the responsibilities and take some of the pressure off present chair,
Jill Adams.
- Parent Workgroups. In Washington, GleeAnn talked with
several ICCs about how they formed and set up parent workgroups. They've
found workgroups to be effective in helping to advise and assist, a
good way to bring back something to the ICC. Our Parent committee established
five working groups at the May national ICC Summit in Park City. GleeAnn's
goal is for these workgroups to gather and organize information, then
take it back to the programs all over Utah. Once a project is completed
the groups can be dissolved. This is an opportunity for the parents
to be more influential, more expressive about what goes on here, and
better informed. GleeAnn's challenge to the providers is to get parents
more involved.
- Legislative Coalition Conference. It was powerful to
realize that disability issues impact everyone. There's always somebody
who knows somebody taking care of someone. This takes away the feelings
of isolation, that "this is only happening to me". It was
a joint meeting regarding adult/children's health. They took the fact
sheet into the small group meeting and talked. There was a feeling among
those there that children's needs were overshadowed by those of adults,
so next year there will be a change.
- Next parent meeting. Parents will meet again on January
8, 2002, at 1:30 PM.
V. POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THE 619 PROGRAM
Brenda Broadbent, from Utah State Office of Education represents the Mountain
Plains Region for the 619 coordinators, reported on the quarterly phone
conference with OSEP. The gist is that they believe that current programs
will not stay the same when IDEA is reauthorized. Right now we have a
birth-to-3, then the 3-to-21 system. OSEP is suggesting either a birth-to-5
and a 6-to-21 or a birth-to-21 program. We have an opportunity in our
state to voice feedback regarding our preferences. If it's a birth-to-21
system could a state still opt for separate lead agencies? Would it make
a difference to families if it were one system or separated into two systems,
or if we change the age group break? If anyone has input, the timeline
is before January.
Some states are considering discontinuing Part C. In Oregon, because of
budget cuts, their legislature is looking at opting out. In Montana, parents
and providers are advocating for keeping the program, but the agency suggested
to the governor that it not be in the budget. This may be a way of getting
the attention they need to get funding. There is a feeling nationally,
that Part C and 619 programs must come together and speak with one voice.
The question is, what is the cost to the people who are receiving services?
When we merge, someone is going to lose. Right now, we have certain eligibility
criteria, while Part B has other guidelines. Sometimes a merge can strengthen
both programs, but it depends on what it takes to provide the services.
619's current poll shows the majority of the states saying that IDEA should
be Birth-to-21, and it should be up to states to decide how that should
look.
VI. OPENING UTAH'S DOORS UPDATE
Adrienne Akers from Utah State University updated the ICC on her project,
Opening Utah's Doors and demonstrated the application process prototype.
The purpose of the grant, funded through Maternal and Child Health Services,
is to create a way states can organize services so people can use them
more easily. The Opening Doors Project is focusing on one of the objectives
of the grant-a common application process. They have developed a Web-based
application system for the eligibility process so that families don't
have to fill out multiple applications in multiple locations. Another
goal is minimizing the overlap of service coordination that sometimes
occurs when families receive services from multiple agencies. They are
piloting the system in Provo and Vernal in January. Along with early intervention,
families will be able to access applications for Medicaid, Workforce Services,
WIC, food stamps, Office of Child Care, CSCHN, and Baby Your Baby.
VII. HEALTH DEPARTMENT REPORT FOR CSHCN
Dr. Fan Tait demonstrated the Medical Home website. (http://medhome.med.utah.edu).
She explained which areas are under construction and showed the committee
pages that are completed. There will be things added, for example, information
for families, education and legal issues such as IFSPs, screening and
prevention, and coding, to ensure doctors code appropriately. There is
funding for seven more modules. She showed the committee the page on Cerebral
Palsy which has links to the most recent articles, and lists CP issues.
Parents can also access and use the clinical assessments area. The website
is a tool doctors can use to give additional information to families at
the point of referral.
VIII. BABY WATCH BUDGET UPDATE REPORT
Susan Ord provided a handout about the purposes of Part C and budget scenarios.
The handout explained early intervention's needed budget increases to
maintain contracts at the current level, and allow for expected growth,
which comes to approximately 2.3 million. Another chart based on eligibility
data from April and September, broke out the levels of delay. With a monthly
average of 210 children, 80% were listed as a severe delay. To qualify
as mild, they should test out with a standard deviation of 1.0 in three
areas, for a moderate level, they need a delay a standard deviation of
1.5 in two area, for severe, a delay in one area with a standard deviation
of 2.
- Funding scenarios. Susan outlined and explained the
ramifications of: 1.) full funding from the legislature, 2.) funding
for maintenance but no growth, and 3.) no funding increase. If we get
partial funding, ramifications may include changing eligibility to exclude
300 children from our caseload starting in July of 2003, possibly by
eliminating children born prematurely who currently are automatically
qualified, and eliminating the mild delay category. If we don't get
any money from the legislature, that could mean about 700 children would
have to be eliminated, around 24%. Possible scenarios include providers
could take greater cuts to their contracts, children with mild and moderate
delays could be eliminated, parent fees could have to be instituted,
and possibly insurance could be billed.
Diana Sagers, who sits on the Health Advisory Committee, told about
their recent discussion on budgets and what programs are federally mandated.
Early intervention is not. Everything that is cut affects so many other
things. Early intervention helps the families of children with severe
delays learn how best to care for them. The children with mild delays
can be brought up to the level of their peers. It's hard to say that
eliminating the children in the mild category is the right choice.
- Timing is everything. If we change our state plan,
before we get funds next July we have to conduct public hearings for
the changes which includes an open comment period of 60 days, following
a 30 day notification. The hearings should take place in January, so
changes can be included in our state plan submitted in March to OSEP.
We plan to move forward now, rather than wait and see what the legislature
does regarding funding.
- The Governor's Budget Process. George Delavan explained
how the governor's budget works. It's in the final process, it must
be made public by mid-December. One factor that determines what ends
up in the governor's budget is the revenue projection which currently
does not look good. All the state programs are on notice to prepare
for the possibility of budget cuts.
The questions the DOH has for the ICC are: A.) can you suggest any other
ways to try to deal with this situation? B.) do you feel instituting
parent fees is worth the effort to try to increase revenues so maybe
we won't have to cut families from the program? C.).) What sequencing
do you think we should go through in taking budget cutting measures
(e.g. cutting the children with mild delays first, then parent fees,
then, if it gets worse, cutting the moderate cases?)
- Billing Insurance. GleeAnn said many of the parents
of children with mild delays she talked with would rather pay parent
fees than bill insurance. It's a concern that families will have to
wait for milder delays to become more severe before receiving services.
The parents would rather pay than -not qualify for services in the mild
category. It seems that when parents know about the lack of sufficient
funding, they are more willing to pay fees rather than lose services.
Family Voices did an informal survey on billing insurance and the national
trend is that insurers are reducing coverage. Families are worried that
adding one more thing to their insurance could create problems. Early
intervention would be a hard thing to sell to insurance.
- Parent fees. Several years ago when first instituted,
parent fees were cost more to process than the money that was collected
The finance committee task force will reconvene to study the issue of
setting the fee and reassess the requirements. Previously, the legislature
mandated parent fees, but few families actually were required to pay.
The finance subcommittee will look at all the issues surrounding parent
fees and report back to the ICC at the January meeting.
Shelly Wiseman suggested an actuary who might crunch the numbers to
help figure out what the actual cost of service is.
The 619 program will be effected if eligibility for Part C is changed.
GleeAnn suggested using this same argument when talking to the legislators.
One way or the other it's going to come out of the budget. A suggestion
to request a PTA or UEA representative participate on the ICC was made.
The first choice is to continue to lobby for the necessary funding to
maintain the program. The Finance committee will look at all the funding
issues and develop a parent fee policy, before the January 17th ICC
meeting The public hearings will be scheduled for the last two weeks
of January.
IX. NEXT SCHEDULED ICC MEETING. January 17, 2002
at 9:30 AM at DOH Children with Special Health Care Needs, 44 North Medical
Drive, Salt Lake City, Utah.
X. ADJOURNMENT. Barbara Fiechtl adjourned the meeting
at 12:09 PM.
APPROVED AS TO FORM:
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Barbara Fiechtl, Chair for ICC
MINUTES SUBMITTED BY:
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Ellen Parrish, Executive Secretary for ICC
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